{"id":29235,"date":"2023-10-20T12:58:32","date_gmt":"2023-10-20T19:58:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/?p=29235"},"modified":"2023-10-20T12:58:33","modified_gmt":"2023-10-20T19:58:33","slug":"two-uc-berkeley-professors-have-clashed-on-israel-palestine-war-led-them-to-a-joint-message","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/2023\/10\/20\/two-uc-berkeley-professors-have-clashed-on-israel-palestine-war-led-them-to-a-joint-message\/","title":{"rendered":"Two UC Berkeley professors have clashed on Israel-Palestine. War led them to a joint message"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">As tensions rise on campus, can one email make a difference?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Robin Buller<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Oct. 19, 2023 (SFChronicle.com)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/s.hdnux.com\/photos\/01\/34\/71\/53\/24353531\/6\/1200x0.jpg\" alt=\"From left, UC Berkeley professors Ron Hassner, a political science professor who chairs the university\u2019s Israel Studies department, and\u00a0Hatem Bazian, a lecturer on Palestine and post-colonial studies, disagree strongly about what\u2019s happening in Israel and Palestine. But rising campus tensions amid the international conflict brought the scholars to a joint decision.\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">From left, UC Berkeley professors Ron Hassner, a political science professor who chairs the university\u2019s Israel Studies department, and&nbsp;Hatem Bazian, a lecturer on Palestine and post-colonial studies, disagree strongly about what\u2019s happening in Israel and Palestine. But rising campus tensions amid the international conflict brought the scholars to a joint decision.Yalonda M. James\/The Chronicle<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Ron Hassner sat in front of his computer last Wednesday feeling a combination of stress, pain and determination. The day prior, unsettling events had taken place on the campus of UC Berkeley, where&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/polisci.berkeley.edu\/people\/person\/ron-e-hassner\">Hassner, a professor of political science<\/a>, directs the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/helendillerinstitute.berkeley.edu\/about\/our-team\">Helen Diller Institute for Jewish Law and Israel Studies<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A collection of primarily Jewish students had gathered on the steps of Sproul Plaza to read the names of the people who had been killed and kidnapped by Hamas during the Oct. 7 attacks in southern Israel. But during the ceremony&nbsp;\u2014 which echoed a practice common to&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.yadvashem.org\/downloads\/name-reading-ceremonies.html\">remember victims of the Holocaust<\/a>&nbsp;\u2014 they were confronted by a group of anti-Israel peers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThey jeered, laughed and even did a couple of Nazi salutes,\u201d said Hassner, who learned about the event from colleagues who were present. Within seconds, students were getting into each other\u2019s faces. A campus rabbi, Hassner said, physically stood between the two sides, even taking a few blows.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Compelled to do something to prevent further escalations to violence, Hassner\u2019s mind went to his colleague,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/ethnicstudies.berkeley.edu\/people\/hatem-bazian\/\">Hatem Bazian<\/a>, a lecturer who teaches courses on Palestine, Islamophobia and post-colonial studies. When it comes to Israel and Palestine, the two scholars could not see things more differently.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the past, the two have faced off in debates about campus involvement in the boycott, divestment and sanctions movement, which this year saw a Berkeley student group adopt a resolution that&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2022\/12\/21\/us\/uc-berkeley-free-speech.html\">banned speakers who support Israel and Zionism<\/a>. While their disagreements are undergirded by mutual professional respect, they also see their roles on campus quite differently.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI like to think that my students understand that I am a professional scholar and that I\u2019m not a propagandist,\u201d said Hassner, who strives to compartmentalize his Israel identity from his scholarly pursuits, especially in the classroom.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But for Bazian, personal connections to Palestine permeate his research, his teaching and his relationships with students. Having founded the pro-Palestinian campus organization Students for Justice in Palestine as a graduate student in 2001, being an activist is a core part of who he is.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cTo only teach is a luxury I don\u2019t have,\u201d Bazian said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Perhaps the two scholars could do something together to&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/news.berkeley.edu\/2023\/10\/12\/a-call-for-community-on-campus\">call for calm<\/a>, Hassner thought&nbsp;\u2014 not in the Middle East, but on their Berkeley campus. So he fired off a quick email, asking Bazian if he would be open to drafting a joint statement condemning violence and advocating for civil disagreement. But as Hassner hit send, he felt nervous.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sfchronicle.com\/living\/article\/the-israel-hamas-war-has-roiled-us-campuses-18426677.php\">Prominent U.S. college campuses<\/a>&nbsp;from&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.sfchronicle.com\/bayarea\/article\/stanford-uc-berkeley-break-silence-israel-hamas-18420729.php\">Stanford<\/a>&nbsp;to&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2023\/10\/12\/nyregion\/columbia-university-israel-hamas-protests.html\">Columbia<\/a>&nbsp;have struggled to navigate&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/tarekzismail\/status\/1714318527165862175\">expressions of solidarity with Israelis or Palestinians<\/a>. Gaffes and provocations have been abundant, including an incident at&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.latimes.com\/california\/newsletter\/2023-10-16\/essential-california-101623-essential-california\">Harvard<\/a>&nbsp;in which students were publicly shamed on billboards and websites for criticizing Israel. A&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/articles\/dont-hire-my-anti-semitic-law-students-protests-colleges-universities-jews-palestine-6ad86ad5\">Berkeley law professor<\/a>&nbsp;publicly&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.sfchronicle.com\/politics\/article\/berkeley-wall-street-journal-18431837.php\">called for firms not to hire his students<\/a>&nbsp;who expressed anti-Israel sentiments, labeling them antisemitic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Even before the events of this month, moments in which two opposing sides meet with and listen to each other felt increasingly rare. At a polarized time at the beginning of a polarizing war, was it even possible to bridge what Hassner and Bazian both felt to be a widening gulf? And what could such a small gesture achieve anyway?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fractured pasts<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Hassner grew up in Israel and has friends who were&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2023\/10\/09\/us\/us-victims-israel-gaza\/index.html\">shot and killed while protecting their teenage son from the Hamas attacks<\/a>. He believes in a two-state solution, one in which Israel has a right to exist as a country, but in which its occupation of Palestinian land should end. But he is unequivocal in his condemnation of Hamas. To him, the group\u2019s attacks on Israeli civilians were acts of terrorism, pure and simple.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bazian, on the other hand, views Israel as an apartheid and colonial state. A Palestinian born in&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.sfchronicle.com\/news\/world\/article\/while-the-world-is-watching-gaza-violence-fuels-18425953.php\">Nablus<\/a>&nbsp;on the West Bank, he has friends and students who have lost loved ones in Gaza. Last week, his cousin who lives in the Israeli city of Haifa was jumped and badly beaten by a group of strangers. To him, the present conflict is a consequence of historic and continuing Israeli oppression of Palestinians, as well as an outcropping of Palestinians\u2019 collective plight for justice and liberation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In light of those differences, Hassner described reaching out to Bazian as the hardest thing he has done as a scholar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI respect him and I always have \u2026 (but) we are not friends, we are not chummy,\u201d Hassner said. \u201cI\u2019m not even sure he likes me.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bazian was at home putting finishing touches on a midterm exam when he saw Hassner\u2019s email pop into his inbox. The issue deserved his full attention, so he responded saying that he would think about it. Within a few hours, Bazian accepted. A message like that coming from two campus leaders, one Israeli and the other Palestinian, just might resonate, he thought.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When Hassner saw the reply, he said he burst into tears. \u201cIt just offers a little glimmer of humanity and respect and civility at a time you see photos from the Middle East that are just harrowing,\u201d said&nbsp;Hassner, who studies religious terrorism and called the recent events in the region a \u201cfestival of death.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bazian likewise felt the weight of the moment. He was able to relate to the goals of someone with whom he is often vehemently at odds. Tensions and emotions are high on campus, and Bazian, like Hassner, said he feels it is his duty to prevent students from using the crisis to do further harm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cHave your space to present your view, but don\u2019t cross a line,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Israel-Hamas War<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sfchronicle.com\/bayarea\/article\/sf-student-walkout-israel-hamas-war-bombing-sfusd-18433370.php\">S.F. students plan walkout to protest Israel bombing Gaza<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sfchronicle.com\/bayarea\/article\/hamas-israel-berkeley-kibbutz-18429506.php\">Berkeley man was on phone with mom in Israel as Hamas attacked. Here\u2019s how she escaped<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sfchronicle.com\/bayarea\/article\/berkeley-israel-palestine-professors-18429289.php\">Two UC Berkeley professors have clashed on Israel-Palestine. War led them to a joint message<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sfchronicle.com\/bayarea\/article\/stanford-uc-berkeley-break-silence-israel-hamas-18420729.php\">Instructor removed from class as Stanford,&nbsp;UC Berkeley respond to Israel-Hamas war<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sfchronicle.com\/bayarea\/article\/suspended-stanford-teacher-allegedly-separated-18423074.php\">Stanford students say lecturer called Jews in class \u2018colonizers,\u2019 minimized Holocaust<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">An open wound<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Their joint message went out as an&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/news.berkeley.edu\/2023\/10\/12\/a-call-for-community-on-campus\">email from the chancellor\u2019s office last Thursday afternoon<\/a>. Written by Hassner and edited by Bazian, it acknowledged that \u201cdisagreement and different points of view are an essential part of life,\u201d but asked readers to show each other \u201crespect and dignity,\u201d just as the colleagues were modeling not only by collaborating on a statement, but also in their years of civil, facts-bound debate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Since the statement\u2019s release, responses from students and colleagues have been widely positive, both scholars said. But Bazian and Hassner emphasize that they are promoting civil disagreement, not political compromise. \u201cWe\u2019re not asking people to change their minds on the issue,\u201d Bazian said. \u201cWe\u2019re asking people to recognize that you don\u2019t need to hurt or confront the other in an (aggressive) way to make your point of view land.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When asked how their joint statement will shape future collaboration and dialogue, both scholars said it is too early to say. \u201cThe wound is still open and bleeding,\u201d said Hassner, noting that tensions on campus may worsen yet as Israel prepares for a ground invasion and both sides point fingers over&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/world\/biden-heads-middle-east-inflamed-by-gaza-hospital-blast-2023-10-18\/\">the destruction of a Gaza hospital<\/a>. On Monday,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/sanfrancisco\/video\/dueling-protests-over-israel-hamas-war-held-on-uc-berkeley-campus\/\">dueling pro-Israel and pro-Palestinian protests<\/a>&nbsp;made their voices heard at the Sather&nbsp;Gate, but remained peaceful.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For his part, Bazian hopes the statement will make students think about who among their peers might be impacted by inflammatory rhetoric. \u201cWe fail to recognize who is walking on campus and the pain that is on their shoulders,\u201d he said, citing a Palestinian student who is struggling to focus on midterm exams while unable to reach loved ones in Gaza.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>They see their roles as leaders and educators as important tools in achieving change&nbsp;\u2014 which they say is only possible through informed debate. \u201cMaybe we can teach our way out of this,\u201d Hassner&nbsp;said. \u201cBut that requires campus to be a healthy, open-minded place of learning.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On a campus known for embracing culture clashes and facilitating political dissent, that may sound inconsequential, Hassner continued. But it could also lead to new and fruitful dialogue.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cAll we have is the respect that scholars owe to one another and the understanding that the campus is a sacred place,\u201d he said. \u201cThat\u2019s very little, but it\u2019s something.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Robin Buller is an Oakland journalist. Twitter: @RobinBuller<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Written By Robin Buller<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sfchronicle.com\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sfchronicle.com\/img\/logos\/black\/logo.svg\" alt=\"San Francisco Chronicle Homepage - Site Logo\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sfchronicle.com\/img\/core\/hearst_newspapers_logo.svg\" alt=\"HEARST newspapers logo\">\u00a92023 Hearst Communications, Inc.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As tensions rise on campus, can one email make a difference? 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