{"id":30730,"date":"2023-12-21T22:04:48","date_gmt":"2023-12-22T06:04:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/?p=30730"},"modified":"2023-12-21T22:05:27","modified_gmt":"2023-12-22T06:05:27","slug":"creator-of-godwins-law-says-its-ok-and-necessary-to-compare-trump-to-hitler","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/2023\/12\/21\/creator-of-godwins-law-says-its-ok-and-necessary-to-compare-trump-to-hitler\/","title":{"rendered":"Creator of Godwin&#8217;s Law Says It&#8217;s OK\u2014and Necessary\u2014to Compare Trump to Hitler"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.commondreams.org\/media-library\/placard-showing-picture-of-trump-with-hitler-style-mustache.jpg?id=50896099&amp;width=1200&amp;height=400&amp;quality=90&amp;coordinates=0%2C497%2C0%2C1359\" alt=\"Placard showing picture of Trump with Hitler-style mustache\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>A demonstrator holds a placard showing a picture of Donald Trump modified to add a swastika and an Adolf Hitler-style mustache during a protest outside the U.S. Embassy in London on November 9, 2016.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(Photo: Ben Stansall\/AFP via Getty Images)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">&#8220;Those of us who hope to preserve our democratic institutions need to underscore the resemblance before we enter the twilight of American democracy.&#8221;<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.commondreams.org\/author\/jake-johnson\">JAKE JOHNSON<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dec 21, 2023 (CommonDreams.org)<a href=\"https:\/\/giving.commondreams.org\/-\/XKQWGZVR\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The creator of&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.oed.com\/dictionary\/godwins-law_n?tl=true\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Godwin&#8217;s Law<\/a>\u2014an adage that says Adolf Hitler comparisons become increasingly likely as Internet arguments drag on\u2014argued in a&nbsp;<em>Washington Post<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/opinions\/2023\/12\/20\/godwins-law-trump-hitler-comparisons\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">op-ed<\/a>&nbsp;Thursday that his rule in no way discredits efforts to draw parallels between the Nazi dictator and former President Donald Trump.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;Those of us who hope to preserve our democratic institutions need to underscore the resemblance before we enter the twilight of American democracy,&#8221; wrote attorney and author Mike Godwin. &#8220;And that&#8217;s why Godwin&#8217;s Law isn&#8217;t violated\u2014or confirmed\u2014by the Biden reelection campaign&#8217;s&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.politico.com\/news\/2023\/12\/19\/biden-trump-hitler-00132367\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">criticism of Trump&#8217;s increasingly unsubtle messaging<\/a>. We had the luxury of deriving humor from Hitler and Nazi comparisons when doing so was almost always hyperbole. It&#8217;s not a luxury we can afford anymore.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On Wednesday, President Joe Biden&#8217;s 2024 reelection campaign posted to social media a graphic likening Trump&#8217;s recent rhetoric\u2014including his&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/world\/us\/trump-repeats-poisoning-blood-anti-immigrant-remark-2023-12-16\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">statement<\/a>&nbsp;that immigrants are &#8220;poisoning the blood of our country&#8221;\u2014to Hitler&#8217;s and arguing that the similarities are &#8220;not a coincidence.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\"><p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">This is not a coincidence <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/oaSDcb0yzs\">pic.twitter.com\/oaSDcb0yzs<\/a><\/p>&mdash; Biden-Harris HQ (@BidenHQ) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/BidenHQ\/status\/1737567329561526607?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">December 20, 2023<\/a><\/blockquote><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>During a&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2023\/12\/19\/us\/politics\/trump-immigrants-hitler-mein-kampf.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">speech<\/a>&nbsp;in Iowa earlier this week, Trump\u2014the frontrunner for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination\u2014doubled down on his &#8220;poisoning the blood of our country&#8221; remark and acknowledged that&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/politics\/2023\/11\/12\/trump-rally-vermin-political-opponents\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">historians and others<\/a>&nbsp;have compared his rhetoric to Hitler&#8217;s.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;They don&#8217;t like it when I said that,&#8221; Trump told a crowd of his supporters. &#8220;And I never read &#8216;Mein Kampf.&#8217; They said, &#8216;Oh, Hitler said that.'&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Trump&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.vanityfair.com\/news\/2015\/08\/donald-trump-marie-brenner-ivana-divorce\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">told<\/a><em>Vanity Fair<\/em>&nbsp;decades ago that his friend Marty Davis gave him a copy of &#8220;Mein Kampf.&#8221; Davis had a slightly different recollection, saying he in fact gave Trump a book of Hitler&#8217;s speeches.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;More and more of us can see in his cynical rhetoric precisely the kind of dictator he aims to be.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Last month, the former president&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.commondreams.org\/news\/trump-root-out-leftists\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">said<\/a>&nbsp;in a Veterans Day address in New Hampshire that if he&#8217;s reelected, he will &#8220;root out&#8221; those he characterized as &#8220;radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country&#8221;\u2014a threat that observers described as openly fascistic. Weeks later, Trump&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.commondreams.org\/news\/trump-dictator-day-one\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">vowed<\/a>&nbsp;to be a dictator only on &#8220;day one&#8221; if reelected, heightening concerns about his&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/politics\/2023\/11\/05\/trump-revenge-second-term\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">authoritarian ambitions<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Citing two unnamed sources who have spoken to Trump in recent days,&nbsp;<em>Rolling Stone<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/politics\/politics-features\/trump-says-immigrants-poison-blood-nation-1234934092\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">reported<\/a>&nbsp;Wednesday that the former president &#8220;has privately vowed to further amp up the volume on his extreme, anti-immigrant messaging&#8221; in response to the Hitler comparisons.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Godwin argued in his&nbsp;<em>Post<\/em>&nbsp;column Thursday that the former president&#8217;s &#8220;express, self-conscious commitment to a franker form of hate-driven rhetoric probably counts as a special instance of the law: The longer a constitutional republic endures\u2014with strong legal and constitutional limits on governmental power\u2014the probability of a Hitler-like political actor pushing to diminish or erase those limits approaches 100%.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;Will Trump succeed in being crowned &#8216;dictator for a day&#8217;? I hope not,&#8221; Godwin added. &#8220;But I choose to take Trump&#8217;s increasingly heedless transgressiveness\u2014and, yes, I really do think he knows what he&#8217;s doing\u2014as a positive development in one sense: More and more of us can see in his cynical rhetoric precisely the kind of dictator he aims to be.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Our work is licensed under Creative Commons (CC BY-NC-ND 3.0). Feel free to republish and share widely.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.commondreams.org\/author\/jake-johnson\">JAKE JOHNSON<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jake Johnson is a senior editor and staff writer for Common Dreams.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.commondreams.org\/author\/jake-johnson\">Full Bio &gt;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A demonstrator holds a placard showing a picture of Donald Trump modified to add a swastika and an Adolf Hitler-style mustache during a protest outside the U.S. Embassy in London on November 9, 2016.&nbsp; (Photo: Ben Stansall\/AFP via Getty Images) &#8220;Those of us who hope to preserve our democratic institutions&#8230; <a class=\"continue-reading-link\" href=\"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/2023\/12\/21\/creator-of-godwins-law-says-its-ok-and-necessary-to-compare-trump-to-hitler\/\"> Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr; <\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[1646,1478,335],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30730"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=30730"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30730\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":30731,"href":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30730\/revisions\/30731"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=30730"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=30730"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=30730"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}