{"id":32877,"date":"2024-04-11T13:18:35","date_gmt":"2024-04-11T20:18:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/?p=32877"},"modified":"2024-04-11T13:18:36","modified_gmt":"2024-04-11T20:18:36","slug":"someones-trying-to-make-a-san-francisco-to-la-overnight-train-happen-again","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/2024\/04\/11\/someones-trying-to-make-a-san-francisco-to-la-overnight-train-happen-again\/","title":{"rendered":"Someone\u2019s Trying to Make a \u200b\u200bSan Francisco-to-LA Overnight Train Happen Again"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>10 APRIL 2024\/<a href=\"https:\/\/sfist.com\/news\/\">SF NEWS<\/a>\/<a href=\"https:\/\/sfist.com\/author\/joe-kukura\/\">JOE KUKURA<\/a> (SFist.com)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There\u2019s another attempt underway for an SF-to-LA overnighter that would compete with airline travel, this time a train service, which has made progress on getting access to the existing train tracks the trip would require.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We\u2019ve seen efforts to make an easy and affordable SF-to-LA overnight \u201csleeper trip\u201d before. In 2016, someone claimed they were launching a&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/sfist.com\/2016\/04\/26\/startup_launches_sleeper_pod_bus_fo\/\">overnighter bus called Sleepbus<\/a>&nbsp;that would only cost $50, but that effort stopped as soon as it started. They&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/sfist.com\/2017\/07\/07\/newly_rebranded_cabin_a_sleep-pod_b\/\">rebranded as Cabin<\/a>&nbsp;a year later, but that too seems to have&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/sf.streetsblog.org\/2019\/01\/17\/cabin-sleep-bus-is-in-hibernation\">gone out of business before the pandemic<\/a>, and now has&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ridecabin.com\/\">a defunct website<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The long-touted&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/sfist.com\/2024\/01\/24\/high-speed-rail-trains-still-seems-like-a-far-off-dream-but-designers-are\/\">California high-speed rail<\/a>&nbsp;has had&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/sfist.com\/2019\/02\/19\/the-sf-to-la-high-speed-rail-may-be-dead-or-why-we-cant-have-nice-things\/\">so many delays<\/a>&nbsp;that one wonders&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/sfist.com\/2021\/10\/13\/sacramento-legislators-are-holding-up-high-speed-rail-project\/\">if it will ever happen<\/a>, and of course Elon Musk\u2019s Hyperloop idea (which Musk claimed would be able to&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/sfist.com\/2015\/06\/15\/elon_musks_ultra-high-speed_hyperlo\/\">make the trip in 35 minutes<\/a>) was&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/sfist.com\/2023\/12\/22\/elon-musks-hyperloop-one-shutting-down-after-nine-years\/\">sent to the dustbin of history<\/a>&nbsp;last year.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><br>But someone\u2019s trying to float this concept yet again. KRON4 reports that a Newport Beach-based startup called Dreamstar Lines is making progress on&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.kron4.com\/news\/san-francisco-to-l-a-overnight-train-inches-closer-to-reality\/\">an SF-to-LA overnight sleeping train<\/a>. While Dreamstar Lines has existed for nearly ten years and has yet to conduct a single trip, KRON4 reports the company has \u201csigned a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) with Union Pacific Railroad, paving the way for the two entities to come up with a final agreement that would allow Dreamstar to operate its trains on the tracks owned by Union Pacific.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cOur collaboration with Union Pacific Railroad is a significant milestone for Dreamstar Lines and for the future of private rail travel in the United States,\u201d Dreamstar Lines CEO Joshua Dominic&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/ktla.com\/news\/california\/san-francisco-to-l-a-overnight-train-inches-closer-to-reality\/\">told KTLA<\/a>. \u201cBy launching this service, we are not only offering a luxurious and eco-friendly travel option but also revitalizing the rich heritage of overnight rail travel in America.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/img.sfist.com\/2024\/04\/dreamstar.jpeg\" alt=\"\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Image:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/dreamstarlines.com\/\">Dreamstar Lines<\/a><\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The rendering above is obviously unrealistic \u2014 these tracks leading to the Golden Gate Bridge do not exist, and they never will. Though SFGate reported last year that the company intended to approach the Peninsula Corridor Joint Powers Board&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.sfgate.com\/travel\/article\/la-sf-night-train-proposal-dreamstar-17891587.php\">to use Caltrain tracks<\/a>, so there is an existing track network to make the round trips. But there is no agreement yet with Caltrain, and even the MOU with Union Pacific is by no means a final agreement.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pricing is not mentioned, so not it\u2019s not clear if Dreamstar Lines is offering a product that would be cheaper than flying.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But they claim the amenities will be very nice.&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/dreamstarlines.com\/\">Their website touts<\/a>&nbsp;a \u201cpremium overnight \u2018hotel train\u2019\u201d experience, with a few renderings to back this up. The website is only in \u201cWatch This Space\u201d and \u201cJoin Our Mailing List\u201d mode, but claims \u201cWe are working fast to begin service as early as the summer of 2025 on our first route &#8212; the busy Los Angeles to San Francisco Bay Area travel corridor.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There are also some vague references in the KRON4 report that you\u2019d eventually be able to bring your car on the train for use on the other side of the trip. But yeah, let\u2019s not get ahead of ourselves. That SFGate report notes that Dreamstar Lines is \u201cworking on lining up the railcars, financing, staffing and agreements needed.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Summer 2025 seems exceedingly optimistic here. So for the time being, this SF-to-LA overnight trip is just a dream.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Related:&nbsp;<\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/sfist.com\/2016\/04\/26\/startup_launches_sleeper_pod_bus_fo\/\">Take An Overnight SF-to-LA Trip Aboard This Sleeper Pod Bus For Under $50 [SFist]<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Image:&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/dreamstarlines.com\/\"><em>Dreamstar Lines<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>10 APRIL 2024\/SF NEWS\/JOE KUKURA (SFist.com) There\u2019s another attempt underway for an SF-to-LA overnighter that would compete with airline travel, this time a train service, which has made progress on getting access to the existing train tracks the trip would require. 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