{"id":34881,"date":"2024-07-16T12:51:56","date_gmt":"2024-07-16T19:51:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/?p=34881"},"modified":"2024-07-16T12:51:57","modified_gmt":"2024-07-16T19:51:57","slug":"biden-opponents-have-six-days-to-get-him-out-of-the-race","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/2024\/07\/16\/biden-opponents-have-six-days-to-get-him-out-of-the-race\/","title":{"rendered":"Biden Opponents Have Six Days to Get Him Out of the Race"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>A virtual roll call is moving forward, despite no legitimate rationale to formally nominate the president early. Some Biden delegates are trying to whip up an objection campaign.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>BY&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/prospect.org\/topics\/david-dayen\/\">DAVID DAYEN<\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/prospect.org\/topics\/luke-goldstein\/\">LUKE GOLDSTEIN<\/a>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>JULY 16, 2024 (Prospect.org)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/prospect.org\/downloads\/21474\/download\/Dayen-Goldstein-Biden%20071624.jpg?cb=a3390020cc0cc49639aa5dded116d981&amp;w=100&amp;h= 100w, https:\/\/prospect.org\/downloads\/21474\/download\/Dayen-Goldstein-Biden%20071624.jpg?cb=a3390020cc0cc49639aa5dded116d981&amp;w=150&amp;h= 150w, https:\/\/prospect.org\/downloads\/21474\/download\/Dayen-Goldstein-Biden%20071624.jpg?cb=a3390020cc0cc49639aa5dded116d981&amp;w=220&amp;h= 220w, https:\/\/prospect.org\/downloads\/21474\/download\/Dayen-Goldstein-Biden%20071624.jpg?cb=a3390020cc0cc49639aa5dded116d981&amp;w=320&amp;h= 320w, https:\/\/prospect.org\/downloads\/21474\/download\/Dayen-Goldstein-Biden%20071624.jpg?cb=a3390020cc0cc49639aa5dded116d981&amp;w=450&amp;h= 450w, https:\/\/prospect.org\/downloads\/21474\/download\/Dayen-Goldstein-Biden%20071624.jpg?cb=a3390020cc0cc49639aa5dded116d981&amp;w=660&amp;h= 660w, https:\/\/prospect.org\/downloads\/21474\/download\/Dayen-Goldstein-Biden%20071624.jpg?cb=a3390020cc0cc49639aa5dded116d981&amp;w=1024&amp;h= 1024w\" alt=\"Dayen-Goldstein-Biden 071624.jpg\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/prospect.org\/downloads\/21474\/download\/Dayen-Goldstein-Biden%20071624.jpg?cb=a3390020cc0cc49639aa5dded116d981\" width=\"1024\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>SUSAN WALSH\/AP PHOTO<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>President Joe Biden speaks to the media as he arrives to board Air Force One at Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland, July 15, 2024.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The&nbsp;<em>Prospect<\/em>&nbsp;can confirm that the Democratic National Committee is aiming to nominate Joe Biden as their presidential candidate early, in a virtual roll call process that would begin Monday, six days from today.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Both&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.axios.com\/2024\/07\/16\/biden-dnc-vote-nomination-states-2024-election\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Axios<\/a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em><u><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2024\/07\/16\/us\/politics\/dnc-biden-nominee.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">The New York Times<\/a><\/u><\/em>&nbsp;have reported that the virtual roll call would go forward, with the timeline set on Friday morning at a meeting of the Rules Committee. Axios says that voting for the presidential nomination by delegates would begin July 29; the&nbsp;<em>Times&nbsp;<\/em>says it would start July 22.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A source tells the&nbsp;<em>Prospect<\/em>&nbsp;that the July 22 date is correct. That would mean that voting by more than 4,000 delegates, the overwhelming majority of which were pledged to Biden, would begin almost immediately after the Republican National Convention, giving the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2024\/07\/15\/politics\/private-efforts-biden-step-aside\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">now-underground process<\/a>&nbsp;of trying to persuade Biden to step aside a very narrow window for success.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The virtual roll call was established in late May, with the ostensible reason of ensuring that Biden got on the Ohio ballot. Ohio had a deadline for candidate filing that was earlier than the Democratic National Convention\u2019s late-August date, so plans were made to nominate Biden early.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But as the&nbsp;<em>Prospect<\/em>&nbsp;has reported,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/prospect.org\/blogs-and-newsletters\/tap\/2024-07-03-biden-nomination-convention-harris\/\">Ohio changed their law<\/a>&nbsp;to accommodate the DNC\u2019s later date. There is no legitimate reason to accelerate the nomination process. An internal DNC email to committee members in June acknowledged this, stating that Ohio passed \u201clast-minute legislation adjusting the deadline.\u201d The Ohio secretary of state has said that \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/daveweigel\/status\/1813226829399908387\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">the issue is resolved<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/prospect.org\/topics\/david-dayen\/\"><strong><em>More from David Dayen<\/em><\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/prospect.org\/topics\/luke-goldstein\/\"><em><strong>Luke Goldstein<\/strong><\/em><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There\u2019s been some chatter about other state deadlines. A sheet that has been circulating in Democratic circles was obtained by the&nbsp;<em>Prospect<\/em>, and it cites other ballot deadlines in California, Virginia, Montana, and Oklahoma. But the California deadline is on the last day of the convention, August 22; Virginia\u2019s is the day after the convention ends; and Oklahoma and Montana have historically accepted provisional certifications before the convention is over, as have other states.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One state, Washington, has a ballot deadline of August 20, the second day of the convention. However, the director of elections has&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/abcnews.go.com\/Politics\/washington-latest-state-leave-biden-off-november-ballot\/story?id=109088864\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">already said<\/a>&nbsp;that the state would accept provisional certification at that time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There\u2019s no question that Republicans have made feints toward suing over ballot access for a new nominee, no doubt with these deadlines or other requirements like signatures of the nominees in mind. The sheet warns that \u201cIn this litigious atmosphere, with the RNC and Heritage bragging that it will bring every conceivable challenge to the Democratic ticket, relying on [past] practices would be unwise.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But the scenario of a protracted nominating fight that spills past scheduled convention dates and threatens ballot access doesn\u2019t necessarily justify a virtual roll call kicking off nearly a month before the convention, at a time when delegates and party leaders are balking at moving forward with nominating the president for re-election after his disastrous debate performance, questions about his ability to face the rigors of a campaign and another four-year term that would end when he was 86, and slippage in key polls.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThere really is no convention,\u201d said Larry Cohen, former president of the Communications Workers of America and a DNC member. \u201cThere is one item at the convention [who to nominate] and that\u2019s set by the virtual roll call.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>IF THE DNC NOMINATES BIDEN EARLY<\/strong>, starting as soon as six days from now, it becomes extremely difficult to get him off the ballot, and at that point legal battles would surely flow. The only clean way to replace him would be before any formal nomination is conducted.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Meanwhile, Biden has shown no indication that he would consider leaving the race, including in an&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/politics\/2024-election\/transcript-read-full-biden-interview-lester-holt-nbc-news-rcna162029\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">interview with NBC News<\/a>&nbsp;on Monday.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>While most of the discussion about replacing Biden has revolved around the sentiment of donors,&nbsp;<em>The<\/em>&nbsp;<em>New York Times<\/em>&nbsp;editorial board, and top Democratic Party leadership, the actual decision lies formally with the delegates tied to Biden. Delegates include some elected officials, but primarily party loyalists from the rank and file.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Though delegates are all chosen for their loyalty to the president, the&nbsp;<em>Times&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2024\/07\/16\/us\/politics\/dnc-biden-nominee.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">quotes unnamed Democratic insiders<\/a>&nbsp;as predicting \u201cas many as 80 percent\u201d support Biden, a rather low number considering that practically all the delegates are pledged to Biden and were chosen as loyal supporters of the president.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Behind the scenes, there have been ongoing deliberations among delegates about whether Biden is the best nominee for the party following his debate performance. However, party leaders have explicitly tried to tamp down any unofficial conversation about this on Zoom calls and in Facebook groups.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\">\n<p>Once Biden is set as the nominee by the virtual roll call, delegate objections at the convention would largely be symbolic.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Many delegates are still backing the president\u2019s re-election, but scores of delegates contacted by the<em>&nbsp;Prospect<\/em>&nbsp;across numerous states have decided that replacing the candidate they\u2019re pledged to is a better bet for the party. A handful of California\u2019s 496 delegates, the largest state contingency, are even planning to object at the convention if it comes to that, and are organizing a campaign to rally other delegates to do so.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Based on the DNC rules, delegates can abstain from voting if it goes against their conscience. This would be more symbolic than tactical, unless a mass wave of objections spread denying Biden the nomination.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cHe needs to be replaced because otherwise we\u2019re going to get killed; the path we\u2019re on is totally unsustainable and we\u2019re trying to raise alarms any way we can,\u201d said one California delegate who is leading the campaign. The goal is to exert pressure on the party to call for Biden to step aside in the few weeks before the convention, rather than resorting to an open revolt in Chicago. In the eyes of these delegates, objecting is a last-resort effort to avert what they anticipate as an electoral disaster for the party.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI have the same feeling I did when I was campaigning in Michigan for Hillary in 2016; everyone is acting like we\u2019re winning but it really feels more like we\u2019re losing,\u201d said another California delegate who plans to withhold his vote for Biden at the convention if necessary.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The objection push aligns with a letter from Rep. Jared Huffman (D-CA) to cancel the virtual roll call and have the nomination process go on at the convention. If that is successful, delegates would have more time to organize and pressure the president.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>WHILE THERE\u2019S BEEN&nbsp;<u><a href=\"https:\/\/prospect.org\/politics\/2024-07-09-why-bid-to-push-out-biden-is-losing\/\">LITTLE ROOM for any grassroots voice<\/a><\/u><\/strong>&nbsp;to be heard in the party\u2019s civil war over Biden, delegates are accountable in their respective districts to the voters who elected them. Since the June debate debacle, delegates say they\u2019ve been inundated with messages from the voters in their districts, overwhelmingly expressing disapproval for Biden remaining the nominee. That\u2019s in part what motivated the campaign to object at the convention.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The other reason is that delegates have been shut down from voicing dissent or just holding an open discussion about the party\u2019s prospects with Biden. Though&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.politico.com\/news\/magazine\/2024\/07\/10\/act-of-desperation-bidens-team-checks-delegates-for-loyalty-00167393\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">reports suggest<\/a>&nbsp;that long-standing delegates with ties to the party have been contacted by the Biden campaign to shore up support, others haven\u2019t been reached out to at all.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Directly after the debate, one delegate posted in an official Facebook group for the California delegation about his apprehensions about Biden\u2019s age and ability to campaign. A moderator of the group immediately made a post suggesting that these kinds of concerns would not be tolerated in the group and were unhelpful. \u201cWe have decided to prohibit any organizing for a new candidate for president in this group,\u201d the message read, which was shared and reviewed by the<em>&nbsp;Prospect<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Last week, the Biden campaign and its delegation held a phone call with all delegates. Many hoped that this would be a venue to get some information from the campaign about the future and potentially gauge whether other delegates were feeling the same as they were. There are limited avenues for delegates to actually reach each other, even within the same state.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As relayed to the<em>&nbsp;Prospect<\/em>, the call featured campaign manager Julie Chavez Rodriguez and head of operations for the campaign\u2019s delegation team Eli Seo. Comments were shut off for the Zoom call and there was no question period at the end. The campaign officials who spoke tried to laugh off the mayhem since the debate, but the message was clear, similar to the post in the Facebook group.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThe idea was to tell us to sit down, shut up, and fall in line like schoolchildren,\u201d said one delegate on the call who was dismayed by the lack of candor and transparency from the campaign.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The tenor of that call is in line with the party\u2019s strategy to now move up the virtual roll call to next week, shutting down any effort to boot Biden from the ticket, critics say. \u201cThis DNC plan is undemocratic and denies our party the time we need to have this necessary conversation while delivering a massive \u2018F you\u2019 to the growing majority of Democrats who are unhappy with Biden\u2019s candidacy,\u201d said Aaron Regunberg, who\u2019s leading a new organization called Pass the Torch, which has a petition campaign to select a new nominee.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The sentiment is widespread among delegates. Many say they\u2019ll still vote for Biden at the convention if he\u2019s set as the nominee but want a change before then.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI would like to see an open convention,\u201d said one Massachusetts delegate, though he was not willing to object at the convention. However, he does believe that if the California objection campaign reached a critical mass at the convention it would open up a broader discussion among other states and could spread the movement. \u201cAt this point I wouldn\u2019t put that out of the realm of possibility,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Once Biden is set as the nominee by the virtual roll call, as soon as early next week, delegate objections at the convention would largely be symbolic with little real sway on the nomination process. But it would be a sign of a party that\u2019s turned its back even on the party\u2019s most loyal soldiers.<a href=\"https:\/\/prospect.org\/topics\/david-dayen\/\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><a href=\"https:\/\/prospect.org\/topics\/david-dayen\/\">DAVID DAYEN<\/a><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>David Dayen is the Prospect\u2019s executive editor. His work has appeared in The Intercept, The New Republic, HuffPost, The Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, and more. His most recent book is \u2018Monopolized: Life in the Age of Corporate Power.\u2019<a href=\"https:\/\/prospect.org\/topics\/luke-goldstein\/\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><a href=\"https:\/\/prospect.org\/topics\/luke-goldstein\/\">LUKE GOLDSTEIN<\/a><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Luke Goldstein is a writing fellow at The American Prospect. 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