{"id":42579,"date":"2025-07-13T12:37:16","date_gmt":"2025-07-13T19:37:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/?p=42579"},"modified":"2025-07-13T12:37:17","modified_gmt":"2025-07-13T19:37:17","slug":"concentration-camp-expert-warns-trump-wont-stop-with-just-immigrants-in-camps","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/2025\/07\/13\/concentration-camp-expert-warns-trump-wont-stop-with-just-immigrants-in-camps\/","title":{"rendered":"CONCENTRATION CAMP EXPERT WARNS TRUMP WON\u2019T STOP WITH JUST IMMIGRANTS IN CAMPS"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/bathtubbulletin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-37-1024x110.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-66127\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">We still have the power!<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table><tbody><tr><td><a href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/@deanobeidallah\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">DEAN OBEIDALLAH<\/a>&nbsp;JUL 12, 2025<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/bathtubbulletin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-36-1024x619.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-66126\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><em><strong>\u201cWe need to be aware, as a country, how quickly this can get much, much worse.\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That is the warning from&nbsp;<strong>Andrea Pitzer\u2013<\/strong>an expert on concentration camps who wrote the 2017&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/redirect\/d94f968d-605f-404d-86da-4fe0394d611f?j=eyJ1IjoiZTBpcSJ9.bWAl25BLPe62fl7RlezMOITuH1P4z_cuwPSwD9m_3WI\">book<\/a>,&nbsp;<strong>\u201cOne Long Night: A Global History of Concentration Camps\u201d-<\/strong>on where we find ourselves today under the Trump regime.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019ve written repeatedly since Donald Trump won in November that his second term will be worse than we want to imagine. That has obviously come to be.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The question now is how much darker will things become and how do we effectively fight back? Pitzer in our conversation this week (which you can watch below) powerfully and very informatively addressed both points.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pitzer explained that in writing her book documenting the history of concentration camps, she found that when the leaders go down the path of dehumanizing a group of people as a political tool \u2013 be it Jews in Nazi Germany or migrants today with Trump\u2014we must understand it doesn\u2019t end there. It continues down a road that can lead to mass detentions or even genocide.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is deeply disturbingly is just how fast Trump has\u2014and continues to move\u2014in his embrace of this age-old playbook. Pitzer noted that in just the first few months into his term, \u201c<strong>We were already seeing people being kidnapped off the streets by agents who are masked.\u201d&nbsp;<\/strong>Now we are at the next step in the fascist playbook with the&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/redirect\/27eb6f07-a841-4e37-8a38-33fdd3b82a75?j=eyJ1IjoiZTBpcSJ9.bWAl25BLPe62fl7RlezMOITuH1P4z_cuwPSwD9m_3WI\">\u201cAlligator Alcatraz\u201d&nbsp;<\/a>camp that opened in Florida.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Pitzer stated point blank that \u201cAlligator Alcatraz\u201d is a \u201cconcentration camp.\u201d<\/strong>&nbsp;She noted that a \u201cconcentration camp\u201d\u2014as opposed to prisons that are part of the criminal justice system\u2014involve \u201cmass detention of civilians without any real trial. If there\u2019s any kind of trial, it\u2019s a show trial.\u201d And the reason for their imprisonment is not for \u201csome crime that they\u2019ve committed, but instead, on the basis of identity.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pitzer\u2014a journalist who has&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/redirect\/7ef1a05a-b1e6-4baf-858c-76ed3c1f4464?j=eyJ1IjoiZTBpcSJ9.bWAl25BLPe62fl7RlezMOITuH1P4z_cuwPSwD9m_3WI\">written articles<\/a>&nbsp;for a range of outlets\u2014did not hesitate to connect the tactics of the Nazis in regard to Jews to what we are seeing from Trump and his regime officials with immigrants. She explained that the first goal of the Nazis was to make life so difficult for the Jewish population\u2014such as with the anti-Jewish&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/redirect\/0612a1ea-18e0-425a-afba-1a910c095355?j=eyJ1IjoiZTBpcSJ9.bWAl25BLPe62fl7RlezMOITuH1P4z_cuwPSwD9m_3WI\">Nuremberg laws<\/a>\u2014 that they would self-deport from Germany. However, when that didn\u2019t have the intended impact, it was then\u2014five years into Hitler\u2019s time as the German leader\u2013that the Nazis began to put Jews in&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/redirect\/02f6cc7d-7114-40b8-a7b4-c9c6c118a6dd?j=eyJ1IjoiZTBpcSJ9.bWAl25BLPe62fl7RlezMOITuH1P4z_cuwPSwD9m_3WI\">concentration camps<\/a>, which ushered in The Holocaust. (The first&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/redirect\/02f6cc7d-7114-40b8-a7b4-c9c6c118a6dd?j=eyJ1IjoiZTBpcSJ9.bWAl25BLPe62fl7RlezMOITuH1P4z_cuwPSwD9m_3WI\">Nazi concentration camps<\/a>&nbsp;created in 1933 were primarily for political opponents.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As Pitzer highlighted, DHS Secretary Kristi Noem invoked that same concept of self-deportation when she visited Alligator Alcatraz last week. Noem noted that the Everglades camp was meant to frighten immigrants into&nbsp;<strong>self-deporting, declaring, \u201cIf you don\u2019t, you may end up here.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When the self-deportation of millions of undocumented immigrants does not happen\u2014and it won\u2019t\u2014what more will the Trump regime do? As a reminder, thanks to the Trump big billionaires bill, Trump will now have&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/redirect\/36d242d8-7849-460c-a55e-fc39f4b0552f?j=eyJ1IjoiZTBpcSJ9.bWAl25BLPe62fl7RlezMOITuH1P4z_cuwPSwD9m_3WI\">more than<\/a>&nbsp;$100 billion dollars for immigration enforcement including more than doubling the number of ICE officers and building a swath of concentration camps.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>However, history is warning us that Trump will not be content to simply focus on migrants. In fact, in the past few weeks we\u2019ve seen the Trump regime expanding their actions to target U.S. citizens. Trump\u2019s DOJ announced in June they are now focused on \u201c<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/redirect\/90f75d41-5950-4bff-a4c6-f5ee04a135c3?j=eyJ1IjoiZTBpcSJ9.bWAl25BLPe62fl7RlezMOITuH1P4z_cuwPSwD9m_3WI\">prioritizing denaturalization<\/a>\u201d of U.S. citizens. These are people who have come to the United States legally, followed all the rules and become U.S. citizens. But per the&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/redirect\/90f75d41-5950-4bff-a4c6-f5ee04a135c3?j=eyJ1IjoiZTBpcSJ9.bWAl25BLPe62fl7RlezMOITuH1P4z_cuwPSwD9m_3WI\">DOJ memo<\/a>, they will seek to strip people of U.S. citizenship based on a list of ten grounds\u2014including if a citizen simply&nbsp;<strong>\u201cposes a potential danger to national security.\u201d&nbsp;<\/strong>That could mean any of the 25 million naturalized citizens are at risk if they become critics of Trump and he dubs them a \u201cpotential danger.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We also learned from a&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/redirect\/e8fc93e7-0ea9-4f89-8551-b539077a9e41?j=eyJ1IjoiZTBpcSJ9.bWAl25BLPe62fl7RlezMOITuH1P4z_cuwPSwD9m_3WI\">federal court decision<\/a>&nbsp;on Friday that Trump\u2019s ICE has not only been unconstitutionally rounding up migrants by way of \u201croving patrols,\u201d but they have also been&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/redirect\/e8fc93e7-0ea9-4f89-8551-b539077a9e41?j=eyJ1IjoiZTBpcSJ9.bWAl25BLPe62fl7RlezMOITuH1P4z_cuwPSwD9m_3WI\">detaining U.S. citizens<\/a>&nbsp;in their raids and refusing to immediately release them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In addition, Trump\u2019s DOJ is now&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/redirect\/7af55ec6-d0b9-47d3-b6c1-a5f15664115f?j=eyJ1IjoiZTBpcSJ9.bWAl25BLPe62fl7RlezMOITuH1P4z_cuwPSwD9m_3WI\">criminally investigating<\/a>&nbsp;two of Trump\u2019s critics, former CIA Director John Brennan and former FBI Director James Comey. In addition, Trump in April signed an executive orders&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/redirect\/b5d726b7-910a-4d53-a79c-ad6926009f12?j=eyJ1IjoiZTBpcSJ9.bWAl25BLPe62fl7RlezMOITuH1P4z_cuwPSwD9m_3WI\">directing<\/a>&nbsp;his DOJ to find crimes to punish two former aides, Miles Taylor, a former Homeland Security official who criticized Trump, and Christopher Krebs, a top cybersecurity official who refused after the 2020 election to back up Trump\u2019s lie that the 2020 election was stolen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And on Saturday morning, Trump threatened to strip U.S. born Rosie O\u2019Donnell of her citizenship,<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/redirect\/74c798d4-7d5c-4539-bbab-b84163fb1a6a?j=eyJ1IjoiZTBpcSJ9.bWAl25BLPe62fl7RlezMOITuH1P4z_cuwPSwD9m_3WI\">&nbsp;writing<\/a>&nbsp;on Truth Social: \u201cRosie O\u2019Donnell is not in the best interests of our Great Country, I am giving serious consideration to taking away her Citizenship.\u201d From a legal point of view, there is no current provision to strip a U.S. born citizen of their citizenship. Clearly, Trump is desperate to distract from his cover up of the Jeffrey Epstein files.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But with that said, what we know from Trump is that he always tells us exactly what he wants to do and then tries to achieve that. Don\u2019t be surprised when he tries to strip an American born critic of U.S. citizenship in the hopes the corrupt GOP Supreme Court will allow him to do just that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>From there, Trump will deport his now stateless critics to other nations\u2014or take a page from other fascist leaders\u2013and simply imprison them in the new concentration camps he is building.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As Pitzer stated,&nbsp;<strong>\u201cWe\u2019re in a bad place, and I really think Americans who don\u2019t want it to happen will need to stand up against it in some way, because the other thing that we\u2019ve seen is these things do not stop on their own.\u201d She added, \u201cThey absolutely do not.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, these are challenging times. But we still have the power to build a movement to stop Trump and take back our power\u2014be that via elections or other ways. As Pitzer noted, \u201cthe independent judiciary and especially the right to protest are critical.\u201d She noted that that the idea of protesting \u201cdoesn\u2019t just mean does mean nationally.\u201d In fact, she emphasized that \u201cwhat you do in your community on a small local level is absolutely critical.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When people even in red areas see others from their community say, \u201cthis is wrong,\u201d history shows it has an impact on their views, Pitzer explained. That is why she urges people to get involved with local community organizations, the mayor and council, etc. It\u2019s this local engagement she believes will help us build coalitions to win the 2026 elections and beyond.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don\u2019t want to sugarcoat where we find ourselves as a nation. I can\u2019t tell you it\u2019s all going to be okay. But I can tell you that if we check out, Trump will succeed at his fascist takeover of the United States. I can also tell you with great confidence that if unite, organize and prepare for the fight ahead\u2014whatever form that takes\u2013we have the power to defeat the dark forces of Trumpism.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p>I hope you will watch my discussion below with Andrea Pitzer. It is truly worth your time:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/redirect\/a1a36c03-52e6-476c-9911-7efa8a054177?j=eyJ1IjoiZTBpcSJ9.bWAl25BLPe62fl7RlezMOITuH1P4z_cuwPSwD9m_3WI\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ecp.yusercontent.com\/mail?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstackcdn.com%2Fimage%2Fyoutube%2Fw_728%2Cc_limit%2Fl_youtube_play_qyqt8q%2Cw_120%2Fu7Ldee8seB8&amp;t=1752352922&amp;ymreqid=d41d8cd9-8f00-b204-1c76-040003014c00&amp;sig=P7yy2X0Kxy9yiqk855uVuQ--~D\" alt=\"\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We still have the power! DEAN OBEIDALLAH&nbsp;JUL 12, 2025 \u201cWe need to be aware, as a country, how quickly this can get much, much worse.\u201d That is the warning from&nbsp;Andrea Pitzer\u2013an expert on concentration camps who wrote the 2017&nbsp;book,&nbsp;\u201cOne Long Night: A Global History of Concentration Camps\u201d-on where we find&#8230; <a class=\"continue-reading-link\" href=\"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/2025\/07\/13\/concentration-camp-expert-warns-trump-wont-stop-with-just-immigrants-in-camps\/\"> Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr; <\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/42579"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=42579"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/42579\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":42580,"href":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/42579\/revisions\/42580"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=42579"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=42579"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/occupysf.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=42579"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}